I am considering Windows Phone 8 and would like to know if anyone is using one. How well does it work for business? I mostly use my phone for work and browsing the web.
I have been seriously looking at a Windows 8 phone as my iPhone 4S replacement as I have gotten a bit bored and constrained with the iPhone. I tried Windows 8 on an ultrabook and could not deal with the metro interface in that form factor. I know a number of people who have been moving to the Nokia Lumia 920 and like it a lot. When my contract with ATT is up in October I will take a serious look at it again.
the current lack of s/mime support is a little constraining (but coming in 2014 if you need email encryption).
I think I would recommend a Nokia for the extra apps (especially the conference call app which scans your calendar and can get you quickly into conference calls without typing codes!).
I am on Sprint and they are just releasing their phones, one from HTC and the other from Samsung, nothing from Nokia at the moment. Looks like August might be the time to move to Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.
Came across this old post.. have you gotten or still considering Windows Phone?
It's been ages since I last looked at any Windows Phone (some time in 2005), so I'm not going to say anything specific. Also, as much as I could be trying not to be biased, I am in fact biased. After these disclaimers , I have one question - why? iPhone and Android devices are clear leaders sharing the market between themselves. They cater to people with different needs and have anything you may ever need. Also I can certainly understand more subjective reasons such as loyalty & fan base (Apple) and "anti-proprietary", "openness" feelings many people have (Android). Anybody who's got time to play around and geeks among us will also go with Android.
But why Windows? I wasn't aware of any stable fan base as far as Microsoft/Windows goes. More like "necessary evil" kind of feelings that I get from most people. I am *not* anti-Microsoft, don't get me wrong, but I have enough issues with my laptops and desktops' OS getting bloated and slow as time goes by, constant need of cleanups, hangings & crashes (much less lately I must admit), security/malware issues, etc. I just don't want to have all this on my phone too, while I have very good alternatives.
P.S. The last Windows Phone (2005 - mentioned above) was provided by the company to all of us in the IT department. It survived 3 weeks and then we all switched to BlackBerry.
Basically my Android phone could not work well with the Exchange server. The worst issue was meetings on the Exchange server would move randomly around if I used the calendar function on the phone. That caused me to miss meetings and get reminders for randomly moved meetings while I was trying to sleep. Google would not do anything and Microsoft said that it works with Outlook and other mobile platforms (iOS was mentioned) and that there are known issues with Android and Exchange.
While I waited for Nokia to come to Sprint I won an iPad mini. I decided to see how well that works with Exchange and other work system and was amazed at how tightly it worked with Exchange. If I snoozea meeting from the iPad it snoozesin Outlook as well. Since Sprint never launched Nokia I got an iPhone 5S a few months after it launched. I am very happy that everything just works without hassle. I really like the finger print reader and the greater privacy controls for apps.
I build computers for fun and can tolerate issues on my personal system since I can fix them myself but I need my work tools to be solid and just work. Now people are amazed that I switched from Android to iOS, I guess most people are going the other way. I have never been an Apple fan and would not normally even consider an Apple product when purchasing technology. I would still not buy a Mac desktop because Apple will not let me build my own. But iOS seems to just work and enables me to concentrate on my job instead of the tools and systems getting in the way, now I own 2 iOS devices and enjoy both.
I'm glad you found what works well for you, that's what matters. iOS and Android are very different but both are perfectly fine, and I wouldn't try to judge - it's the matter of personal preference. My "why?" question was directed exclusively at Windows Phone.. where I do happen to have a solid opinion. I don't even think it has to work better with the Exchange just because it's Microsoft. I've seen quite a few issues with Outlook on a Windows desktop. But I understand that's not very relevant anymore :-)
By the way, the issues you were having with the Exchange on Android could be very well application issues, too. I am using TouchDown on my Samsung GS4 and it works just fine.
I hoped that Windows Phone would just work. I wanted Android to just work but I needed more buy more stuff or install Mobile Iron, neither sounded attractive. It was an application issue with the Android default application, 3rd party apps worked.
I have been using Windows Phone for 3-1/2 years and love it. I had the Samsung Focus 2 phone from AT&T for two years, then the Nokia Lumia 920. I have been running the developer preview of Windows Phone 8.1 with Cortana support for months. The whole family has Lumia 920s at the moment. Not sure what I'll get when the contract runs out at the end of the year.
What makes this phone exceptional for me is Lync support (we use it heavily at Sepaton), Skype (with video), multiple email inboxes, excellent Exchange integration, Office, offline maps and true GPS for navigation overseas without data charges, a fantastic camera and associated apps, the people hub, Cortana, and TouchDevelop - one of the most amazing pieces of software for knocking out a quick mobile app. It has all the essential apps.
Just a follow-up to emphasize how well this phone works for me in the HDS work environment.
I got a Windows 8 phone as a loaner phone while waiting for a replacement phone. Worst phone Ive ever used... God Awful..Horrible non-intuitive UI, Slow, Crashy, and kept messing up my Outlook inbox. I use Lync 2013 & Skype with Android and am happy with those apps on Android.. I didn't see any difference between the Android Version and the Winphone version of those apps. Id definatley recommend iOS over Windows Phone, but find Android better than both.
Why not go to your carrier and rent/loaner a Windows Phone before buying one?
Sounds like you may have had bad hardware or a loose SIM (both are possibilities with a loaner) or maybe a bad app running in the background. At one point my phone was a little unstable due to an app that didn't suspend properly in background mode. I ditched that app. You can control whether apps run in background and eat up your battery.
I try very hard not to be judgmental when it comes to potentially hot topics like Unix vs. Windows, PC vs. Mac ...and Android vs. iOS. I try, but like I said above in this thread, Windows Phone is an exception. In fact, I didn't even mention Windows Phone vs. Android vs. iOS because it's simply not a choice for me :-). I've been a "Unix guy" since 1989 and I still have to put up with Windows laptops/desktops (and even servers for some tasks at work) just because it's frequently easier and more productive, and sometimes there is no other choice. But I have a plenty of choice when it comes to my phone. I just don't trust Windows to power such a critical tool as my personal smartphone, and I have my reasons for that based on extensive experience dealing with Windows-based devices in my life.
I was a UNIX product manager in 1989, but I have also invested a lot of time getting to know Microsoft technologies. Windows Phone OS is not Windows XP, any more than Xbox is Windows XP. I think you have to evaluate each of their products - and there are many - on their merits.
A few other things I like about my Lumia 920:
I completely agree with you that each product should be evaluated on its own merits. Microsoft has done a million things that others haven't. Speaking of applications and other non-OS products, many of them are great. MS Office, for example, is an excellent suite of apps and I have absolutely no problem with it. It's only the operating system that I have a problem with. And I don't talk about phone features and apps, just the OS.
There is a long history, Windows 3.x was very innovative, but then something went wrong. I remember Windows 95 and especially Windows NT era when everybody thought Unix was dead. It's true that Windows has been getting better (despite such setbacks as Windows ME, Vista, or 8.0) and it is now in much better shape than it was before. But fundamentally it is still the same. There is still registry that gets bloated no matter how often I run registry cleanup or defrag. The kernel is still pretty much the same old NT kernel (I won't go into details). In fact, Windows Phone 8 (Apollo) switched from Windows CE to "Windows NT Core" which, they say, is a good thing since it leads to unification of all platforms under one Windows OS.
Just saw the latest IDC research: http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp
The smartphone market grew 25.3% year over year, and Windows Phone dropped 9.4% from the same period last year. I guess I'll still wait
Hello, I had a Win8 Phone for the last two years and was very happy with it except for the Apps.
So I switched to Android because of the Apps. For example my camera can me remote controlled by an App. Like most Apps they are only available for IOS and Android.
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